Images © ITV Studios, 1969 / Composition @ Alan Hayes © 2024

Writer: Tony Williamson • Director: Jeremy Summers

ORIGINAL ITC SYNOPSIS

In the vicious world of big business Jeff Randall is definitely not himself!
 

 

The day when Jeff Randall can no longer see or hear his ghostly partner, Marty Hopkirk, is the day both have been dreading for a long time, and now it seems to have arrived.

 

The only thing is, Jeff doesn't appear to be bothered by it. It's as though he has forgotten all about Marty. So, thinking it might be due to overwork, Marty goes to a psychiatric session presided over by the celebrated Sir Oliver Norenton and takes advantage of a patient's hypnotic state to give Jeff's address to Sir Oliver.

 

The work Jeff has been engaged on is that of finding out who has been leaking information from the Towler Corporation and using it to play the Stock Market. The police, in the form of Inspector Large, are also in on it because one of the directors was murdered after arranging an appointment with Jeff.

 

Before Sir Oliver arrives (on a visit that's to no avail, anyway), Marty hears Jeff ring up Holly, the Personnel Manager of the company - to arrange an appointment. Later Holly is found dead, but Jeff swears blindly to Large that he never 'phoned him.

 

This is too much. Using another of Sir Oliver's patients, Mrs. Trotter, Marty tries again to jog Jeff's memory with a message but Jeff gets rid of her quickly because he is hiding someone he appears to be in league with, Jarvis.

 

Then, after planning with Jarvis, Jeff gains entrance to the apartment of the Managing Director, Hepple, and kills him, despite Marty's effort to stop him.

 

It's only back at Jeff's apartment that the, by now, astounded Marty sees what's going on. Jeff is not Jeff at all. A cleverly applied face mask comes off to reveal a man named Hinch.

 

Large is now openly suspicious, but Hinch's excuse is that Hepple gave him the case so why should he want to kill him? At this Jean jumps to the alert. She recalls it was Laker, the General Manager, who gave him the case, and not Hepple.

 

Following this up, both she and Marty find that Laker's house holds the answers to many questions, the least of which being the whereabouts of the real Jeff. Sir Oliver's hypnotic assistance is eventually put to good use, though...

 
PRODUCTION & ARCHIVE
Production Code: RH/DCW/4018
Filming Dates:
Mar-Apr 1969
Production Completed:
Early July 1969
Recording Format: 35mm Colour Film
Archive Holding: 35mm Colour Film

UK REGIONAL PREMIERES

Anglia: Sun 15 Nov 1970, 3.00pm (M*)
ATV: Fri 7 Nov 1969, 7.30pm (M)
Border: Fri 27 Feb 1970, 7.30pm (M)
Channel: Fri 12 Dec 1969, 7.05pm (M)
Grampian: Wed 8 Apr 1970, 8.00pm (M)
Granada: Fri 7 Nov 1969, 7.30pm (M)
HTV: Sun 26 Oct 1969, 3.45pm (M)
LWT: Sun 23 Nov 1969, 7.25pm

Scottish:
Sat 5 Feb 1972, 11.20pm
Southern: Sun 30 Nov 1969, 7.25pm (M)
Tyne Tees: Sun 30 Aug 1970, 9.05pm
Ulster: Fri 7 Nov 1969, 7.30pm (M)
Westward: Fri 12 Dec 1969, 7.05pm (M)
Yorkshire: Fri 7 Nov 1969, 7.30pm (M)

(M) = Transmitted in Monochrome/Black and White
(M*) = Transmitted in B/W due to ITV Colour Strike
CHARACTERS & CAST

Jeff Randall
Marty Hopkirk
Jean Hopkirk
Inspector Large
Sir Oliver Norenton
Jarvis
James Laker
Mrs. Trotter
Hepple
Sir Timothy Grange
Diana
Holly
Tilvers
Tully
Hinch

Mike Pratt
Kenneth Cope
Annette Andrι
Ivor Dean
Clifford Evans
Keith Barron
Reginald Marsh
Bessie Love
Basil Dignam
Peter Stephens
Rosemary Donnelly
Philip James
David Stoll
John Garvin
David Downer

STAND-INS
Jeff Randall
Marty Hopkirk
Jean Hopkirk
Harry Fielder
Dougie Lockyer
Tina Simmons
STUNT DOUBLES
Jeff Randall
Sam Grimes
Rocky Taylor
Romo Gorrara
BLU-RAY RESTORATION

35mm Negative / Magnetic soundtrack

EPISODE SPECIAL FEATURES

Production footage (mute, 01:03), Photo Gallery

ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK

Music for this episode was recycled from stock and therefore no release of a soundtrack of When Did You Start To Stop Seeing Things? has been issued.

PRODUCTION CREDITS

Writer – Tony Williamson
Series Theme & Musical Director –
Edwin Astley
Creator & Executive Story Consultant –
Dennis Spooner
Creative Consultant
- Cyril Frankel
Producer –
Monty Berman
Director –
Jeremy Summers

Ronald Liles (Production Supervisor)
Brian Elvin (Director of Photography)
Charles Bishop (Art Director)
Philip Aizlewood (Post Production)
Lee Doig (Editor)
Malcolm Christopher (Production Manager)
Jack Lowin (2nd Unit Director)
Gerald Moss (2nd Unit Cameraman)
Frank Drake (Camera Operator)
Michael Meighan (Assistant Director)
Sally Ball (Continuity)
Denis Porter & Dennis Whitlock (Sound Recordists)
Deveril Goodman (Music Editor)
Peter Lennard (Sound Editor)
John Owen (Casting)
Roger Christian (Set Dresser)
Bill Greene (Construction Manager)
Peter Dunlop (Production Buyer)
A. J. Van Montagu (Scenic Artist)
Frank Maher (Stunt Co-ordinator)
Elizabeth Romanoff (Make-Up)
Henry Montsash (Hairdresser)
Laura Nightingale (Costume Supervisor)
Cinesound (Sound Effects Suppliers)
and Chambers + Partners (Titles)

Made on Location and at Associated British Elstree Studios, London, England
An ITC Production

WHEN DID YOU START TO STOP SEEING THINGS? • REVIEW

Tony Williamson's script for When Did You Start to Stop Seeing Things? takes the series' central conceit, that Jeff Randall can see and interact with his dead partner, and gives it a 180° twist: what could have happened to suddenly change that situation? Marty is on his own as he tries to solve the mystery, with the subplot of Laker's financial misconduct at the Towler Corporation being a McGuffin that takes up little of the episode's time or the viewer's attention. And that's fine and dandy. The undoubted highlight of the episode is Mike Pratt's performance as the counterfeit Jeff, which is well observed and nuanced - Jeff but not Jeff. Anyone in any doubt about Mike Pratt's abilities as an actor should be pointed towards this episode in which he is thoroughly convincing as each of the Jeff Randalls and he established is a clear distinction between them. The aspect of Hinch's impersonation that goes unaddressed - and maybe it's for the good of the episode - is that we never hear his real voice, as he has no dialogue when unmasked and played by David Downer. The only disappointing aspect of this story is the rubber mask as the audience have been asked to suspend their disbelief throughout and then at the end it is highly unconvincing in the last shot of the dead Hinch. One wonders if a better last shot would have been of Mike Pratt playing the corpse, as it had already been established earlier in the episode (when Marty sees Hinch take the mask off) that this was not the real Jeff. All round, though, a fabulous and strong episode from the pen of the redoubtable Tony Williamson that gave Mike Pratt an opportunity to show what he was truly capable of. Extra brownie points for Keith Barron as a chillingly cold villain, and it's always a joy to see Clifford Evans and he clearly enjoyed his turn in Randall and Hopkirk (Deceased).

WHEN DID YOU START TO STOP SEEING THINGS? • DECLASSIFIED

  • Pre-Titles Teaser... Tully drives his orange sports car into the underground car park, finds a vacant space and parks up. He has come to meet Jeff Randall, but he can see no sign of the private detective. He checks his watch - Randall should be here by now. He gets out of the car and calls out, "Mr. Randall!" - he receives no reply. He calls again and then sounds the horn of his car. As he does this, someone approaches, but it is not Jeff Randall. The man that Tully sees before him is a dark-haired, cold-faced man in a khaki trench coat. Tully asks if Randall has sent him, but the stranger is silent. He reaches into his inside coat pocket and withdraws from it a revolver, complete with silencer. Tully looks on aghast and makes a run for it. Coldly, the stranger aims and pulls the trigger. In the far distance, Tully falls to the ground, dead. "That's right, Tully. Mr. Randall sent me," intones the killer.


  • Production Brief... When Did You Start To Stop Seeing Things? was the eighteenth episode to go before the cameras. It was the Tony Williamson's sixth episode as scriptwriter and the third to be directed by Jeremy Summers.

  • Roger Christian returned as set dresser for this episode, a role that he would also fill for the final six episodes of the series, starting with The House on Haunted Hill.

  • Exact filming dates for this episode are unknown, but it is believed to have been filmed between March and April 1969. A fully edited version of this episode was completed by early July 1969.


  • On Location... When Did You Start To Stop Seeing Things? is an episode set predominantly in urban locales, with only High Canons (previously seen in It's Supposed to Be Thicker Than Water) bucking the trend. Otherwise, the action takes place in London's Fitzrovia, Holborn, Knightsbridge and Marylebone areas, with stop offs in Randall and Hopkirk (Deceased)'s familiar stamping grounds of St. John's Wood, Harrow and the car park beneath ABPC Elstree Studios. More details in Locations: When Did You Start To Stop Seeing Things?.


  • Haunting Melodies... Edwin Astley was not asked to compose any new music cues for When Did You Start To Stop Seeing Things?, with its score coming entirely from stock. One piece of library music was used, a Chappell cue composed by John Barry - Mood Three - and this was used to accompany the scene where Sir Oliver, under hypnotic instruction from Marty, behaves like a secret agent. A tiny snatch of this theme was later used in Could You Recognise the Man Again?


  • Seeing Things... When Did You Start To Stop Seeing Things? received its first UK broadcast on Sunday 26th October 1969 at 3.45pm when it aired in monochrome in the HTV ITV region.

  • It was first shown in colour on ITV on Sunday 23rd November 1969 at 7.25pm in the London Weekend Television region.


  • Trivia... Psychiatrist Sir Oliver Norenton shares offices at 42 Harley Street with Sir Digby Fowling, a neurosurgeon, M.J. Bartell, an ear, nose and throat specialist, and Sir Lattimer Glade, a maxillofacial surgeon.

  • The abstract artwork seen hanging behind Hepple's desk in his penthouse suite had first been seen as one of Lord Manford's art treasures in The Avengers: From Venus with Love (1967), for which it was specially created. The design originally filled the complete canvas, but for reasons unknown was whitewashed in part for Randall and Hopkirk (Deceased) to create restrict the active area of the painting to the shape of a human body. Declassified's Art Critique: they blinking ruined it!

 

Image © StudioCanal, 1967

Images © ITV Studios, 1969

     

  • Only You, Jeff? This one's more a case of "Not even Jeff!" but Marty is fortunate in being able to communicate with patients of Sir Oliver Norenton, namely Tilvers, Mrs. Trotter and Sir Timothy Grange, when he has put them under hypnosis. Later, Marty manages to communicate and suggest actions to Norenton when Sir Oliver is himself in a trance.


  • Ghosts and Ghoulies... Just Marty in this one, but we love Marty, so who's complaining?


  • The Vehicles... Appearing in this episode were the following wonders of transport...

1969 TVR Vixen S2
Registration PHP 999G
Driven by Tully
Also appeared in:
Department S - 'The Soup of the Day'
1968 Vauxhall Victor FD 2000
Registration RXD 996F
Driven by Jeff Randall
Also appeared in:
Randall and Hopkirk (Deceased) - used extensively throughout the series
Department S - 'The Last Train to Redbridge', 'The Man from X'
1962 Wolseley 6/110 MkI
Registration 649 CLC
Also appeared in:
Man in a Suitcase - 'The Sitting Pigeon', 'The Whisper', 'Why They Killed Nolan', 'Jigsaw Man', Property of a Gentleman'
1959 Bentley S2 Continental
Registration 11 PPO
Driven by Sir Oliver Norenton
Also appeared in:
Randall and Hopkirk (Deceased) - 'The Man from Nowhere', 'Just for the Record' (with fake HAL 14 plates)
Department S - used extensively in the series with fake European plates (Jason King's car)

Images © ITV Studios, 1969


  • Seen It All Before? Familiar sets were used for the study, hallway and cellar of The Manor House, Milton Vale - home of James Laker - with subtle changes compared to how they had appeared in previous episodes.

  • The lift area of Hepple's penthouse suite had featured previously in Never Trust a Ghost.

  • The name Lattimer (later used more prominently in The House on Haunted Hill) appears here on a Harley Street door sign as the forename of a maxillofacial surgeon: Sir Lattimer Glade.


  • Cock-ups... The first cock-up in When Did You Start to Stop Seeing Things? appears at 8 minutes and 7 seconds into the episode when Marty approaches the door of several Harley Street pracititioners. As he nears the door, we see a brass letterbox with a series of vertically arranged brass nameplates above it. The camera cuts to Marty studying them and then we cut to a shot of the nameplates... only they are now wooden nameplates, three vertical and with another to their right, against plain concrete, with a brick wall to the left. The Harley Street building has no visible brickwork of this type nor concrete posts, placing this firmly, irrefutably, in cock-up territory.

Images © ITV Studios, 1969

  • At 28 minutes and 7 seconds, we see that Jean's desk is placed so that there is just enough room for one person to stand beside it. When Inspector Large arrives 29 seconds later, the desk has moved to the far corner of the room, and Jean with it!

Images © ITV Studios, 1969

 

  • And Finally... Viewers can be forgiven for actor spotting while watching episodes of Randall and Hopkirk (Deceased) and other ITC series. Every episode is populated with familiar faces belonging to people who pop up in any number of films and television shows from the era and beyond. However, there is one of the series' supporting actors who is considerably less well known to later generation audience members, but who was a such a star in her day that in 1960 she was awarded with a Star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame in Los Angeles. The person in question is Bessie Love, who played Mrs. Trotter, one of Sir Oliver's patients in When Did You Start To Stop Seeing Things? Born Juanita Horton in Midland, Texas, in 1898, Bessie gained ingenue parts from 1915 when the pioneering film director placed her under an exclusive contract with his Fine Arts company. Her work with the company placed her in the spotlight but a couple of ill-advised moves to work for other companies meant that her career as a dramatic actress didn't really blossom until the early 1920s. The coming of sound witnessed her star rising in 1929 and 1930 with an inspired move into musical comedy. In 1935, she moved to England, where she continued to work in film, on stage and, eventually, on television, occasionally returning home to work there too.

     

    You can read more about Bessie Love in our Who's Who? section.
     

Plotline: Scoton Productions / ITC • UK Transmissions by Simon Coward and Alan Hayes
Review by Alan Hayes • Declassified by Alan Hayes
with thanks to Vince Cox, Alys Hayes, John Holburn,
Anthony McKay and Andrew Pixley
 

All timings given on this page relate to the Blu-ray editions of this episode

 
 

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